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- Mon Dec 28, 2009 3:48 am
- Forum: Hokkien (Minnan) language
- Topic: Confusion about Dictionary of Modern Quanzhou Speech
- Replies: 21
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Re: Confusion about Dictionary of Modern Quanzhou Speech
Two separate issues here. First, there's no inherent reason to insist that 味 and 麵 (or 厘 and 年, or 義 and 硬) have different initials. You can either think of them as having the same final and different initials, or the same initial and different finals. DZL takes the latter view (as did 彙音妙悟 and many...
- Sat Dec 26, 2009 8:19 am
- Forum: Hokkien (Minnan) language
- Topic: Confusion about Dictionary of Modern Quanzhou Speech
- Replies: 21
- Views: 49107
Re: Confusion about Dictionary of Modern Quanzhou Speech
Just to be absolutely clear, DZL "Min" corresponds exactly to POJ "Bin" ("nasal vowels" are those shown with an underscore in DZL). In short, again, simply substitute a "B" whenever you see the initial "M" unless the final is underscored. Think of it...
- Thu Dec 24, 2009 12:26 am
- Forum: Hokkien (Minnan) language
- Topic: Confusion about Dictionary of Modern Quanzhou Speech
- Replies: 21
- Views: 49107
Re: Confusion about Dictionary of Modern Quanzhou Speech
Please keep in mind that DZL (當代泉州音字彙) uses this system simply as its way of showing pronunciations, and recognizes that other dictionaries have their own choices, as you've observed. Take a sample of the English dictionaries published in the US, for example, and you'll see that rarely do two publis...
- Wed Dec 23, 2009 6:14 am
- Forum: Hokkien (Minnan) language
- Topic: Confusion about Dictionary of Modern Quanzhou Speech
- Replies: 21
- Views: 49107
Confusion about Dictionary of Modern Quanzhou Speech
I came across a recent thread in this forum where the pronunciation symbols of the Dictionary of Modern Quanzhou Speech (當代泉州音字彙, http://solution.cs.ucla.edu/~jinbo/dzl/) were discussed. There appeared to be misunderstandings that this dictionary merges the POJ “b-” and “m-”, and “g-” and “ng-”. Thi...