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by dzl
Mon Dec 28, 2009 3:48 am
Forum: Hokkien (Minnan) language
Topic: Confusion about Dictionary of Modern Quanzhou Speech
Replies: 21
Views: 49107

Re: Confusion about Dictionary of Modern Quanzhou Speech

Two separate issues here. First, there's no inherent reason to insist that 味 and 麵 (or 厘 and 年, or 義 and 硬) have different initials. You can either think of them as having the same final and different initials, or the same initial and different finals. DZL takes the latter view (as did 彙音妙悟 and many...
by dzl
Sat Dec 26, 2009 8:19 am
Forum: Hokkien (Minnan) language
Topic: Confusion about Dictionary of Modern Quanzhou Speech
Replies: 21
Views: 49107

Re: Confusion about Dictionary of Modern Quanzhou Speech

Just to be absolutely clear, DZL "Min" corresponds exactly to POJ "Bin" ("nasal vowels" are those shown with an underscore in DZL). In short, again, simply substitute a "B" whenever you see the initial "M" unless the final is underscored. Think of it...
by dzl
Thu Dec 24, 2009 12:26 am
Forum: Hokkien (Minnan) language
Topic: Confusion about Dictionary of Modern Quanzhou Speech
Replies: 21
Views: 49107

Re: Confusion about Dictionary of Modern Quanzhou Speech

Please keep in mind that DZL (當代泉州音字彙) uses this system simply as its way of showing pronunciations, and recognizes that other dictionaries have their own choices, as you've observed. Take a sample of the English dictionaries published in the US, for example, and you'll see that rarely do two publis...
by dzl
Wed Dec 23, 2009 6:14 am
Forum: Hokkien (Minnan) language
Topic: Confusion about Dictionary of Modern Quanzhou Speech
Replies: 21
Views: 49107

Confusion about Dictionary of Modern Quanzhou Speech

I came across a recent thread in this forum where the pronunciation symbols of the Dictionary of Modern Quanzhou Speech (當代泉州音字彙, http://solution.cs.ucla.edu/~jinbo/dzl/) were discussed. There appeared to be misunderstandings that this dictionary merges the POJ “b-” and “m-”, and “g-” and “ng-”. Thi...