"tiong-ng" (middle)

[hong]

I find that above new medium size putonghua dict change some words(from two other same size dict)from beijinghua and guanhua into putonghua.I don't know how many more beijinghua will become putonhua in the future.

[hong]

放水 pang chui as a meaning of purposely losing a game is added in above putonghua dict which is the first ever putonghua dict to do so? It is appeared in taiwan mandarin dict which could be an original minnan word.

[hong]

I found the word tahan in above .Maybe tahan is not malay but minnan.The hanzi is 打限---支撑,负载.Or this is just pure malay like agak

[Niuc]

Hi Hong

Thanks for the info. 汞 is mercury in Mandarin but I have never heard it in Hokkien, usually

[Niuc]

Hi Hong

Thanks for the info. 汞 is mercury in Mandarin but I have never heard it in Hokkien, usually we say 水銀 sui2-gun5. We call silver color paint as 水銀漆 sui2-gun5-chat4.

Tahan sounds Malay to me although we also use it. I think 擋 tong3 is more appropriate.

Another word for 以為 (Mandarin: yi3wei2) in our dialect is 想講 siu*7-kong2. 我若准汝知影了 gua2 na7-cun2 ly2 cai1-ia*2 a0 = 我想講汝知影了 gua2 siu*7-kong2 ly2 cai1-ia*2 a0.

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[hong]

Dera niu,
We even have a tong an dicthttp://www.hxdb.com.cn/docc/v_news.asp?vid=6938 .A few days ago I gave a link about 200 pages of longhai dict.

[hong]

maybe someone in Indonesia also has a copy of this dict.I think with this dict we will know better the older(correct) tong an sound in case younger tong an in china people started changing to xiamen sound recently.
It is a great year for minnan studies with 3 dict rediscovered .I hope in 2 years time, 3 of them will be published by xiamen univeristy press.

[Niuc]

Hi Hong

Thanks a lot for the info about Tang5-ua*1 dictionary. Hopefully it'll be published soon.

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[hong]

I don't know that Prof Chiu is working in this better dict from the older one putonghuaminnan dict .A great news is they include some loan words from Taiwan and South east asia.http://www.xmdaily.com.cn/csnn0409/ca289292.htm

[Tjandy]

I also need to point out that in Medan we also use ngau1 and kau1 for "to hook".

Ngiau chi / niau chi and ngiau and niau are both used in Medan as well.

It is however hard for me to believe that most people in Medan are from Cuan Ciu. I maybe wrong but I know most Hokkienese in Medan are from around Lam Oa (Nan2 An1) and An Khui (An1 Qi2). There are people from Cuan Ciu but are definitely in minority - unless Lam Oa and An Khui are both in Cuan Ciu.

Also for this place, the young generation in Medan will use Ce4 Peng1 and the older generation will use Ce4 Tau1.

For that place, we will use Hi4 Peng1 and the older generation will use Hi4 Tau1.