Hokkien dialect in Kelantan

Mark Yong · Post by **Mark Yong** » Mon May 09, 2005 3:12 pm

hong wrote:Just to increase my point of chuanchiu people in South east asia and Taiwan don't use correct chuanchiu word.I add another important word.
Pretty is not sui but 女+畜=thek =chu in mandarin? (maybe Tongan/jinmen are not supposed to this word).Tongan/jinmen don't use 說 serh like chuanchiu.
It is in Kangxizidian from 集韻=媚也。

On the subject of "sui"... how do you write "ean4 tau5" (handsome)?

hong · Post by **hong** » Mon May 09, 2005 11:47 pm

缘投 ian5tau5,

hong · Post by **hong** » Tue May 10, 2005 1:00 am

phiau1 phiat8 for man 瀟灑
khiau 2 巧-- pretty for girls only? 即個查某囝仔穿甲真khiau.

hong · Post by **hong** » Tue May 10, 2005 4:43 am

酥soo1 is also used for pretty too
穿 a3 thiak7 thiak6 (穿得很漂亮)
妝 a3 thiak7thiak6 (打扮得很漂亮)
Actually no benzi about 象聲詞 for languages of china,just up to them to find a zi for it.

hong · Post by **hong** » Tue May 10, 2005 6:11 am

amorously 妖艷-hue1 sin5 and hue1hiat8 伊妝甲花神嬌頭。The last one is unknown hanzi (hiat) and can be used for girls and cloth.即個查某真huehiat.(妖治輕佻)。

hong · Post by **hong** » Tue May 10, 2005 8:16 am

above hiat is 4 not 8.Taiwanese put 血。cng1-thann7 妝娗 =打扮漂亮。

niuc · Post by **niuc** » Wed May 11, 2005 3:40 pm

hong wrote:Pretty is not sui but 女+畜=thek =chu in mandarin? (maybe Tongan/jinmen are not supposed to this word).Tongan/jinmen don't use 說 serh like chuanchiu.

It's true that we (Tang-ua*) use sui2, not thek; also kong2 講 is the common one, 說 ser4 is very rare e.g. in khin1-sia*1-sue3-ser4 輕聲細說 = to speak very softly.

niuc · Post by **niuc** » Wed May 11, 2005 3:46 pm

hong wrote:khiau 2 巧-- pretty for girls only? 即個查某囝仔穿甲真khiau.

I think beautiful/pretty is 嬌 kiau1. 巧 khiau2 means clever or even crafty, depends on the context.

hong · Post by **hong** » Thu May 12, 2005 12:08 am

No,if look at Prof.Chiu's dict you will find that he is correct.嬌kiau1 is for another meaning -不能吃苦=即個查某真嬌。(this can be used by mother-in- law)
another is for color -鮮艷=即塊布色傷嬌
But 愛嬌,妖嬌,嬌頭 are really for pretty woman
Yes,he did say 巧 can be used for 手藝 clever and pretty as well.

Mark Yong · Post by **Mark Yong** » Mon May 23, 2005 3:08 pm

So much for handsome, beautiful, etc... how do you write "khiap" (ugly)?