xiamen new tones

hong · Post by **hong** » Sat May 28, 2005 8:38 am

I think it is important for people to know xiamen new tone for o 高 .It is er for young people now.oh become erh=保,io become ier=橋,ioh become ierh =
箬(leaf)
I have seen a misleading web site from taiwan with a recording for o as er sound.And it follows by example 高雄 ker1hiong。

hong · Post by **hong** » Sat May 28, 2005 10:59 am

sorry,I should write new vowel like chuanchiu but not tones.

Mark Yong · Post by **Mark Yong** » Sat May 28, 2005 4:02 pm

I normally take care to ensure that unrelated topics get mixed together, but since Hong mentioned the word 高, I thought I had better ask before I forget:

What is the Hanzi for "kuan" (tall) and "kE" (short)? Some dictionaries I have seen write "kE" as 底, while others write it as 下. The only reason I am slightly more convinced that it is 下 is because 'wenyan' uses 下 for "short" (if I am remember correctly, the couplet 高下 appears in the 三字經).

hong · Post by **hong** » Sat May 28, 2005 11:59 pm

懸 chuan= kuinn5 ,chiang=kuan5,xia=kuainn5(baidu) .old chinese adjective means 高掛的
矮baidu xiamen is ue2 .chuan is eri .chiang is e but ei for some southern sects.
下 is e7 for e pai,etc but chiang is E7.

hong · Post by **hong** » Sun May 29, 2005 12:43 am

another baidu of 下=ke7 .It is used for mountain,tree,building.It is from old chinese 。tall people is 身+長=lo3. lo kha,lo-kha-lo-chhiu,lo-lang,

hong · Post by **hong** » Sun May 29, 2005 1:53 am

I don't know where Prof.Chiu got above hanzi but the correct hanzi should be the one in kangxi dict 身+勞=郎到切=lo.
大漢 is tall in old chinese.And further added another meaning 引申為 adult in minnan .
song period--時姑蘇有民家姓唐﹐一兄一妹﹐其長皆丈有二尺,里人謂之唐大漢﹐

hong · Post by **hong** » Sun May 29, 2005 5:21 am

下=khe7 or he7 baidu is a verb meaning 放置 place. chiangchiu is with hE,khE.

hong · Post by **hong** » Sun May 29, 2005 12:15 pm

one dict put above khe7 as 擱置=set aside.

hong · Post by **hong** » Sun May 29, 2005 12:24 pm

above 身+長 for tall is a word created by minnan using 會意method from 六書。口+林 for drink is using 形聲 method

hong · Post by **hong** » Mon May 30, 2005 5:48 am

a link for a small article
www.csnn.com.cn/2005/ca312117.htm