y-/ h- shifts in Minnan

Mark Yong · Post by **Mark Yong** » Tue May 24, 2005 6:36 am

Are the two words 葉 "yap/hiok" (leaf) and 樣 "yang/hang" (types/kinds) examples of y- to h- shifts for wendu/baidu in Minnan?

hong · Post by **hong** » Tue May 24, 2005 7:10 am

No minnan word start with y although some dict from China do put y.
葉 (wen) iap8 iah8
樣 (wen) iong7 iunn7
hioh for leaf is another hanzi 箬

Mark Yong · Post by **Mark Yong** » Tue May 24, 2005 10:11 am

Thanks. Yep, forgot that there is no 'y-', only 'i-'.

So, the baidu for 樣 is really 'hang'?

hong · Post by **hong** » Tue May 24, 2005 12:05 pm

項 only has wendu hang7 . 樣 has baidu iunn7.we can hear news for this word 怎樣。ca-iunn.
篛 is same with 箬 for leaf. we just follow 楚 people in 說文解字

hong · Post by **hong** » Mon May 30, 2005 12:39 pm

Mark,
You have asked about the hanzi for 到。I find one book saying 告=kau3 instead of 遘.
周禮。凡四方之賓客告焉 -
集韻 explain the hanzi for find chhue /chhe7 is hand radical one left+罪。摸也。
It is not in kangxi dict who put 損也。

hong · Post by **hong** » Mon May 30, 2005 12:52 pm

I think minnan in Malaysia for the last 8 years who suffer from currency problem must learn this word= 細圓sue3 inn5 -devalue.of currency.

Mark Yong · Post by **Mark Yong** » Mon May 30, 2005 2:43 pm

hong wrote: You have asked about the hanzi for 到。I find one book saying 告=kau3 instead of 遘.

Hi, Hong,

Thanks for remembering my question. Isn't 告 pronounced as "kŏ" (often used as "to sue someone")?

Regards,
Mark

hong · Post by **hong** » Mon May 30, 2005 11:36 pm

告 baidu is kau3 .wen is ko3

hong · Post by **hong** » Tue May 31, 2005 12:54 am

身+良 is also the correct hanzi for tall= lo.One dict say wet= tam benzi is 淫 .

niuc · Post by **niuc** » Wed Jun 01, 2005 6:21 am

How could tam5 (wet) be 淫 (im5 lewd, promiscuous)?