Hi,
I would like to seek help on inputting Hanzi in Windows (ME,2000,XP). I have a preference for the traditional characters, and would also prefer to input them by means of strokes and radicals rather than pinyin.
Actually, the radical system may work better for me because I am self-taught in written Chinese and therefore am not very consistent with the stroke sequence for words (therefore, inputting by strokes will not work well for me if I reverse some sequence of stroke orders). Also, all the dictionaries I use regularly are indexed by radicals (not pinyin).
I am aware that Windows XP comes with pinyin recognition. However, I would rather not use it because:
1. My hanyu pinyin is not very good (I am not officially Mandarin-educated).
2. Being a purist, I would prefer to input the characters directly as Chinese characters, rather than rely on Romanization as a bridge.
3. Anyway, the Windows XP pinyin system only applies to the simplified characters, which I do not want to use.
Currently, I have resorted to using the Chinese (Taiwan) language settings (owing to its large database of characters - even archaic and obsolete ones, e.g. "3 dragons"!) and writing out the characters on the character recognition writing pad using my mouse. It is a very tedious process (takes me about 20 seconds per character!), and is subject to errors when the system cannot recognise my "chicken scrawls"!
Please help... thanks!
Cheers,
Mark
Inputting Traditional Chinese on keyboard w/o pinyin
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Thomas Chin
Hi, Thomas,
Thanks for pointing me towards Cangjie! I tried it out. The system does come pretty close to what I was looking for. It still does not come 100% naturally to me yet, as I need to learn how to identify the basic building blocks within the characters. Once I get that sorted out, I should be on my way towards abandoning the drawing pad!
Cheers,
Mark
Thanks for pointing me towards Cangjie! I tried it out. The system does come pretty close to what I was looking for. It still does not come 100% naturally to me yet, as I need to learn how to identify the basic building blocks within the characters. Once I get that sorted out, I should be on my way towards abandoning the drawing pad!
Cheers,
Mark
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Aurelio
Mark,
You said you didn't like Pinyin, so I'm not going to try to force it upon you
Just a suggestion: My global IME (windows XP) comes in both traditional and simplified (with Hanyu Pinyin input). Now, being able to write pinyin has it's beauty, just like being able to write IPA (international phonetic alphabeth) because it forces you to think about your pronunciation ...
Best regards,
Aurelio
You said you didn't like Pinyin, so I'm not going to try to force it upon you
Just a suggestion: My global IME (windows XP) comes in both traditional and simplified (with Hanyu Pinyin input). Now, being able to write pinyin has it's beauty, just like being able to write IPA (international phonetic alphabeth) because it forces you to think about your pronunciation ...Best regards,
Aurelio
Hi, Aurelio,
Thanks for the tip! I played around with the Windows XP IME settings and finally managed to activate the Pinyin input for the Tradtional Chinese characters.
While I admittedly do turn to the Pinyin input out of convenience, I am a bit of an oddball, in that my deference is more towards the written word rather than the pronunciation. The reason being, I still believe that Chinese characters should continue to play its age-old role of being universally readable in any dialect (or, for that matter, even Japanese, Korean or Vietnamese), and not be tagged to any one pronunciation in particular.
For me, the characters will always speak primarily to the eyes, and not the ears. The last 3,000 years have seen the spoken language and pronunciations evolve dramatically, but the written word remains unchanged. If forced to make a choice, I would rather be able to read/write a word without knowing how to pronounce it, than pronounce a word without being able to read/write it.
But I guess that's just me.
Regards,
Mark
Thanks for the tip! I played around with the Windows XP IME settings and finally managed to activate the Pinyin input for the Tradtional Chinese characters.
While I admittedly do turn to the Pinyin input out of convenience, I am a bit of an oddball, in that my deference is more towards the written word rather than the pronunciation. The reason being, I still believe that Chinese characters should continue to play its age-old role of being universally readable in any dialect (or, for that matter, even Japanese, Korean or Vietnamese), and not be tagged to any one pronunciation in particular.
For me, the characters will always speak primarily to the eyes, and not the ears. The last 3,000 years have seen the spoken language and pronunciations evolve dramatically, but the written word remains unchanged. If forced to make a choice, I would rather be able to read/write a word without knowing how to pronounce it, than pronounce a word without being able to read/write it.
But I guess that's just me.
Regards,
Mark
Mark,Mark Yong wrote:Hi, Thomas,
Thanks for pointing me towards Cangjie! I tried it out. The system does come pretty close to what I was looking for. It still does not come 100% naturally to me yet, as I need to learn how to identify the basic building blocks within the characters. Once I get that sorted out, I should be on my way towards abandoning the drawing pad!
Cheers,
Mark
I would be very grateful if you teach me how to use Cangjie (Changjie?) or point me in the right direction. I couldn't find a good English site on how to use it.
Anatoli
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