is tai sino-tibetan? here are the numerals in laos.
o=soon
1=nung,it,diew
2=song
3=sam
4=si
5-haa
6=hok
7=jit
8=bat
9=gao
10=sip
11=sip it and so on
tai is sino-tibetan?
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Guest
yes it does but only after 10. for example 50 60 70...
mk counts only as 1-5. then it goes 5+1,5+2... so on. so that means that the numerals are borrowed fron tai. examples are shown below:
Value in Khmer Value in English Word Form Pronunciation
០ 0 សូន្យ sohn
១ 1 មួយ muoy
២ 2 ពីរ pi
៣ 3 បី bei
៤ 4 បួន buon
៥ 5 ប្រាំ pram
៦ 6 ប្រាំមួយ pram muoy
៧ 7 ប្រាំពីរ pram pi
៨ 8 ប្រាំបី pram bei
៩ 9 ប្រាំបួន pram buon
១០ 10 ដប់ dop
១១ 11 ដប់មួយ dop muoy
២០ 20 ម្ភៃ ma'pei
៣០ 30 សាមសិប sam sep
៤០ 40 សែសិប sai sep
៥០ 50 ហាសិប ha sep
៦០ 60 ហុកសិប hok sep
៧០ 70 ចិតសិប chet sep
៨០ 80 ប៉ែតសិប baet sep
tai did borrow the numeral zero which is suon from mk.
mk counts only as 1-5. then it goes 5+1,5+2... so on. so that means that the numerals are borrowed fron tai. examples are shown below:
Value in Khmer Value in English Word Form Pronunciation
០ 0 សូន្យ sohn
១ 1 មួយ muoy
២ 2 ពីរ pi
៣ 3 បី bei
៤ 4 បួន buon
៥ 5 ប្រាំ pram
៦ 6 ប្រាំមួយ pram muoy
៧ 7 ប្រាំពីរ pram pi
៨ 8 ប្រាំបី pram bei
៩ 9 ប្រាំបួន pram buon
១០ 10 ដប់ dop
១១ 11 ដប់មួយ dop muoy
២០ 20 ម្ភៃ ma'pei
៣០ 30 សាមសិប sam sep
៤០ 40 សែសិប sai sep
៥០ 50 ហាសិប ha sep
៦០ 60 ហុកសិប hok sep
៧០ 70 ចិតសិប chet sep
៨០ 80 ប៉ែតសិប baet sep
tai did borrow the numeral zero which is suon from mk.
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Guest
Re: tai is sino-tibetan?
Tai/laos used to belong to sino-tibetan group until some linguist decide to have it into another new group. But basically it can be classified into sino-tibetan group because the language ischao-xu wrote:is tai sino-tibetan? here are the numerals in laos.
1. monosyllabic
2. tonal
3. some basic characters like the numerals are sino in origin
4. noun classifiers - one piece of paper etc
5. simple grammar that don't change verbs (unlike european - indo languages)
There are basically 3 subgroups of sino-tibetan.
1. sino
2. tibetan/burma
3. tai/laos (some say vietnamese too)
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qrasy
Do you forget about Hmong-Mien (Miao-Yao)?
Mon have independent words for 6-10.
3. base number can be loaned
4. shared with other Southeast Asian languages (Austronesian, AustroAsiatic).
5. in past there were verb changing, nowadays the root and the derived term assumed different
That's only Khmer. x*10, x>2 is borrowed from Tai.mk counts only as 1-5. then it goes 5+1,5+2... so on. so that means that the numerals are borrowed fron tai. examples are shown below:
Mon have independent words for 6-10.
1.,2. I will give you a link to Tsat and Tibetan1. monosyllabic
2. tonal
3. some basic characters like the numerals are sino in origin
4. noun classifiers - one piece of paper etc
5. simple grammar that don't change verbs (unlike european - indo languages)
3. base number can be loaned
4. shared with other Southeast Asian languages (Austronesian, AustroAsiatic).
5. in past there were verb changing, nowadays the root and the derived term assumed different