Checking the Hanzi for some basic Hokkien words

ong · Post by **ong** » Sat Jan 21, 2006 1:02 pm

煙 is just ian1,no hun sound.
I remember mark and sim ask what is the hanzi for cang 5 in cuanciu,chiang mostly in xia/ciang,.Prof.Li says it is water radical on the left with 血 on top,豕 below.
we use this cang for cang ik,cui,etc.
chiong 1 is another hanzi 沖。not for shower.

ong · Post by **ong** » Sat Jan 21, 2006 1:12 pm

note that 沖 in ciangciu is also chiong1.

ong · Post by **ong** » Sat Jan 21, 2006 3:22 pm

sorry,above word below is 眾。

ong · Post by **ong** » Sat Jan 21, 2006 3:37 pm

I find that I can type the word ,just that hanzi in Prof.Li's book was printed wrongly.It is 潀=cong.

tantg · Post by **tantg** » Sat Jan 21, 2006 5:12 pm

ong wrote:煙 is just ian1,no hun sound.

Hence the suggestion that cigarette (hun gi) is 薰枝 or 燻枝, where 薰 or 燻 stands for the tobacco or smoke in the cigarette, rather than 煙枝 or 菸枝 as Mark Yong originally thought.

ong · Post by **ong** » Sun Jan 22, 2006 9:07 am

see the book by Prof.Li on 薰。
香烟、烟丝、烟草都说薰，福州音 houng,莆田音hong,泉漳厦音hun,潮州和雷州hung.
厚薰，水薰，薰屎，薰油，薰丝，薰箬。烟卷儿闽东说薰囝，闽南说薰支。烟袋闽东说烟筒，闽南说薰吹。
菸草原产南美洲，明代闽人从菲律宾引进，初称淡巴菰，后称为薰。这是闽人用古语意译外来语的一例，故古籍未见用例，外地方言也未有此说，是闽语的特征词。

tantg · Post by **tantg** » Sun Jan 22, 2006 10:23 am

Ong, you could have *simply* replied "yes" to my original suggestion that tobacco is 薰. I thought you were disagreeing.

ong · Post by **ong** » Sun Jan 22, 2006 10:56 am

I am only trying to make the forum more intereting by typing out some articles..If you have some dict ,you won't be typing hun 7 in the first place.

tantg · Post by **tantg** » Sun Jan 22, 2006 11:33 am

ong wrote:I am only trying to make the forum more intereting by typing out some articles..If you have some dict ,you won't be typing hun 7 in the first place.

As I said before, I merely quoted hun7 from Mark Yong's msg.

Are you saying everyone who posts in this forum should have a Hokien dictionary? Aren't you discouraging casual postings?

ong · Post by **ong** » Sun Jan 22, 2006 12:53 pm

everyone minnan should buy some minnan dict,what is wrong about that?