Hokkien Jokes

Discussions on the Hokkien (Minnan) language.
jilang
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Post by jilang »

Ok. Thanks.
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tng-kha-chuinn / tng-kha-chng

Post by SimL »

Well, this isn't a joke, but an amusing expression I remembered from my youth.

My parents would have visitors (friends of theirs), and they would sit chatting to my parents in the living room. And then after a few hours, it would be time for them to go home, so that would say "Oh, I suppose it's time to go". And my parents would get up and see them to the door. At the door, they would think of something else to talk about, and stand in the veranda and talk for another 10-15 minutes. And then they would say "Oh, we really must be going", and they would get into the car. Sitting in the car, with the windows wound down, they would think of something else to talk about, and spend yet another 10-15 minutes talking.

When they FINALLY drove off, my parents would say: "a yo! ci-le lang, anE tng-kha-chuinn e!", in Amoy: "a yo! cit-e lang, ani tng-kha-chng e!" (= "o dear, those people have such long backsides!").

I suppose the image is derived from the fact that even though they are standing on the veranda, mentally, their backsides are still on the seats in the living room, and even after they have got into the car, their backsides are *still* on the seats in the living room. Hence the term "long backsides"!

Did anyone else use this expression?

Cheers,
Sim.
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Post by duaaagiii »

It is used in Taiwan. =)
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Post by ong »

Is is in both dict from china
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Post by SimL »

I seem to be having a fit of "off-topic posting madness" :-).

Well, it's related to Chinese language, and I'm putting it in the "Jokes" topic, so I guess I can be forgiven:

http://www.yellowbridge.com/onlinelit/stonelion.html

Cheers,
Sim.
jilang
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Post by jilang »

That essay was funny, thanks Sim.
When they FINALLY drove off, my parents would say: "a yo! ci-le lang, anE tng-kha-chuinn e!", in Amoy: "a yo! cit-e lang, ani tng-kha-chng e!" (= "o dear, those people have such long backsides!").
With the first pronounciation of the phrase you gave, was it Penang Hokkien? If so I would have thought it would have been pronounced "an e" in PH, not "anE" with the "er" sound. I don't speak Penang Hokkien so I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just wondering about the pronounciation.
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Post by SimL »

Jilang, you are always so *careful* when you query someone, in order not to give offense :-). Rest assured, your queries - with the prefaced remarks - never come across as challenging or disagreeable!

I say "a-nE", and use the "E" to mean "open-e". This sound is written in IPA as [ε] (looks like a Greek epsilon, in case your browser won't display the character), and in SAMPA (ASCII-IPA) as [E]. It sounds like the -e- in British English "get", "let", "set", "ben", etc. [I think that it's the same sound as Malay "sen", as in ringgit & sen, or "Sentosa" in Singapore.]

Penang Hokkien uses this sound a lot, for where Amoy has [e] or .

Amoy = Penang Hokkien [E]:

'a1-nE1' (like this), 'cE~2' (a well), 'chE~1' (green), 'chE~2' (awake), 'mE5' (night-time), 'mE7' (to scold), 'pE~7' (sickness), 'sE~1' (to be born, to give birth), 'tE~2' (to pretend).

Amoy [e] = Penang Hokkien [E]:

'bE2' (horse), 'gE5' (teeth), 'hE7' (to put), 'kE2' (false).

Well, after writing out these two lists, I see a pattern! If it's a nasal sound in Hokkien, then Penang Hokkien [E] corresponds to Amoy , and if it's a non-nasal sound, then Penang Hokkien [E] corresponds to Amoy [e].

The only other one I can think of is 'lEh4' (to drive over someone/something with a vehicle on wheels). I don't know how this is said in Amoy.

Cheers,
Sim.
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Post by ong »

amoy and cuanciu is lue5 ,it is not entering tone but le5 in ciangciu
In North malaysia there are no less than 5 regular words not in E like ciangciu but cuanciu in a instead
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Post by casey »

Jilang

About Hokkien jokes, did you notice these two sites:
viewtopic.php?t=1549
viewtopic.php?t=1574

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Post by SimL »

>> 是紅魔ㄟ'knee'!

Thanks for reminding us of these jokes Casey.

BTW, up to 2 minutes ago, I had always thought that the word for "Westerner" was 紅毛 rather than 紅魔.

Guess one learns something new every day!

Sim.
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