Is it too much too ask for you to write the names on pages 4 to 9 ?
Thank you again,
Steve
Need Help
20th genration:
Quanxin 全信 tsuan5-sin3, Choan-sin
wife's name unspecified
4 sons:
Dekai 德開 tik4-khai1, Tek-khai
Dingxian 丁賢 ting1-hian5, Teng-hian
Dinggui 丁貴 ting1-kui3, Teng-kooi
Dingyu 丁玉, ting1-giok8, Teng-giok
3 daughters, names unspecified
Tian'an 添安 thiam1-an1, Thiam-an
wife's name unspecified
3 sons:
Dingkun 丁坤 ting1-khun1, Teng-khun
Dinghui 丁輝 ting1-hui1, Teng-hooi
Dingxie 丁協 ting1-hiap8, Teng-hiap
2 daughters, names unspecified
Tianquan 添泉 thiam1-tsuan5, Thiam-choan
wife: Chen (shi) Huiniang 陳氏輝娘 tan5(--si7) hui1-nioo5, Tan (see) Hooi-nio
two sons:
Dinghu 丁虎 ting1-ho2, Teng-ho
Dingzhu 丁柱 ting1-tsu7, Teng-chu
daughters: names illegible
Tiangui 添貴 thiam1-kui3, Thiam-kooi
wives:
Su (shi) Yaying 蘇氏亞應 so1(--si7) a1-ing3, Soh (see) Ah-eng
Zhang (shi) Ruilan 張氏瑞蘭 tiunn1/tionn1(--si7) sui7-lan5, Tiu/Teo (see) Sooi-lan
4 sons:
Dingmu 丁木 ting1-bok8, Teng-bok
(second son's name illegible)
Dingbo 丁波 ting1-pho1, Teng-pho
Dingjie 丁傑 ting1-kiat8, Teng-kiat
4 daughters:
Peiniang 培娘 pue5-nioo5, Pweh-nio
Hainiang 海娘 hai2-nioo5, Hai-nio
Qianniang 錢娘 tsinn5-nioo5, Chee-nio
Shuniang 樹娘 tshiu7-nioo5, Chew-nio
Tianlu 添祿
family information lost
Tianying 添英
wife: Chen (shi) Shanzhi 陳氏珊芝 tan5(--si7) san1-tsi1, Tan (see) San-chee
1 son: unnamed, died at 100 days
1 daughter: Jinhua 金華 kim1-hua5, Kim-hoa
Tianrui 添瑞 thiam1-sui7, Thiam-sooi
no information
Tianji 添基 thiam1-ki1, Thiam-kee
wife: Lin (shi) Ruiniang 林氏瑞娘 lim5(--si7) sui7-nioo5, Lim (see) Swee-nio
sons:
Dingshou 丁首 ting1-siu2, Teng-siew
Dingmao 丁茂 ting1-boo7, Teng-boh
Dingkuan 丁寬 ting1-khuan1, Teng-khoan
Dingjiu 丁救 ting1-kiu3, Teng-kiew
Dingbei 丁備 ting1-pi7, Teng-pee
daughter: Baoyu 寶玉 po2-giok8, Po-giok
21st generation:
most information is missing or illegible
all that I could recover is that Dingshou (丁首) had a wife named
Chen (shi) Xianglin 陳氏祥林 tan5(--si7) siong5-lim5, Tan (see) Siong-lim
Quanxin 全信 tsuan5-sin3, Choan-sin
wife's name unspecified
4 sons:
Dekai 德開 tik4-khai1, Tek-khai
Dingxian 丁賢 ting1-hian5, Teng-hian
Dinggui 丁貴 ting1-kui3, Teng-kooi
Dingyu 丁玉, ting1-giok8, Teng-giok
3 daughters, names unspecified
Tian'an 添安 thiam1-an1, Thiam-an
wife's name unspecified
3 sons:
Dingkun 丁坤 ting1-khun1, Teng-khun
Dinghui 丁輝 ting1-hui1, Teng-hooi
Dingxie 丁協 ting1-hiap8, Teng-hiap
2 daughters, names unspecified
Tianquan 添泉 thiam1-tsuan5, Thiam-choan
wife: Chen (shi) Huiniang 陳氏輝娘 tan5(--si7) hui1-nioo5, Tan (see) Hooi-nio
two sons:
Dinghu 丁虎 ting1-ho2, Teng-ho
Dingzhu 丁柱 ting1-tsu7, Teng-chu
daughters: names illegible
Tiangui 添貴 thiam1-kui3, Thiam-kooi
wives:
Su (shi) Yaying 蘇氏亞應 so1(--si7) a1-ing3, Soh (see) Ah-eng
Zhang (shi) Ruilan 張氏瑞蘭 tiunn1/tionn1(--si7) sui7-lan5, Tiu/Teo (see) Sooi-lan
4 sons:
Dingmu 丁木 ting1-bok8, Teng-bok
(second son's name illegible)
Dingbo 丁波 ting1-pho1, Teng-pho
Dingjie 丁傑 ting1-kiat8, Teng-kiat
4 daughters:
Peiniang 培娘 pue5-nioo5, Pweh-nio
Hainiang 海娘 hai2-nioo5, Hai-nio
Qianniang 錢娘 tsinn5-nioo5, Chee-nio
Shuniang 樹娘 tshiu7-nioo5, Chew-nio
Tianlu 添祿
family information lost
Tianying 添英
wife: Chen (shi) Shanzhi 陳氏珊芝 tan5(--si7) san1-tsi1, Tan (see) San-chee
1 son: unnamed, died at 100 days
1 daughter: Jinhua 金華 kim1-hua5, Kim-hoa
Tianrui 添瑞 thiam1-sui7, Thiam-sooi
no information
Tianji 添基 thiam1-ki1, Thiam-kee
wife: Lin (shi) Ruiniang 林氏瑞娘 lim5(--si7) sui7-nioo5, Lim (see) Swee-nio
sons:
Dingshou 丁首 ting1-siu2, Teng-siew
Dingmao 丁茂 ting1-boo7, Teng-boh
Dingkuan 丁寬 ting1-khuan1, Teng-khoan
Dingjiu 丁救 ting1-kiu3, Teng-kiew
Dingbei 丁備 ting1-pi7, Teng-pee
daughter: Baoyu 寶玉 po2-giok8, Po-giok
21st generation:
most information is missing or illegible
all that I could recover is that Dingshou (丁首) had a wife named
Chen (shi) Xianglin 陳氏祥林 tan5(--si7) siong5-lim5, Tan (see) Siong-lim
Hi duaaagiii,
Again, many thanks for the names.
I see that my old aunt which I visited last week is also mentioned in the familytree as Po Giok. Her older brother was a classmate of my late father named Teng Kwan, and I knew also the other one as Teng Mo (you wrote as Teng Boh).
As you know we from Indonesia have a slightly different way of romanization then you guys with English influence. But is there also any difference between romanization in Penang and Singapore for example ?
Also from my former research to familytree, I found also that in Indonesia there are slightly differences between people coming from Quanzhao prefecture and the one coming from Zhangzhao prefecture. I am not sure if it is always happend or only in several cases.
Steve Haryono
Again, many thanks for the names.
I see that my old aunt which I visited last week is also mentioned in the familytree as Po Giok. Her older brother was a classmate of my late father named Teng Kwan, and I knew also the other one as Teng Mo (you wrote as Teng Boh).
As you know we from Indonesia have a slightly different way of romanization then you guys with English influence. But is there also any difference between romanization in Penang and Singapore for example ?
Also from my former research to familytree, I found also that in Indonesia there are slightly differences between people coming from Quanzhao prefecture and the one coming from Zhangzhao prefecture. I am not sure if it is always happend or only in several cases.
Steve Haryono
Hi duaaagiii,
I have put 4 pages before the nine pages you have seen in : http://www.haryono.net/misc/huang-1.pdf
Can you tell me what the name of the parrent which I wrote as Huang Chongwen ? And when you see the pages, did they say about places somewhere in Fujian ? May be I can visit the village if I know the exact name of it.
Too bad that the book is about 100 pages thick and too much to be translated.
Thank you,
Steve Haryono
I have put 4 pages before the nine pages you have seen in : http://www.haryono.net/misc/huang-1.pdf
Can you tell me what the name of the parrent which I wrote as Huang Chongwen ? And when you see the pages, did they say about places somewhere in Fujian ? May be I can visit the village if I know the exact name of it.
Too bad that the book is about 100 pages thick and too much to be translated.
Thank you,
Steve Haryono
need help ....again
Hi,
During my last visit to my hometown in Indonesia, I visit to my late uncle. There I found a gravestone of the second wife of my ancestor. (This ancestor was the first who came to Indonesia from Fujian, China). The gravestone itself was dated in 1888.
If someone can write in minnan (hokkian) the name of the descendants which are stated on the gravestones I would be very grateful.
You can see the photo at : http://www.haryono.net/misc/Zheng.jpg
The first 4 are the sons (first one, we knew the name is Phia-teng and the last is Hoan-ciong)
The second list are 16 grandchildren. My great-grandfather's father should be stated here (his name is Ciao-Cai - our dutch spelling written as Tjiauw Tjay)
The third row are 9 great-grandsons. My great-grandfather should be stated here. His name is Han-tong
Thank you in advance,
Steve
During my last visit to my hometown in Indonesia, I visit to my late uncle. There I found a gravestone of the second wife of my ancestor. (This ancestor was the first who came to Indonesia from Fujian, China). The gravestone itself was dated in 1888.
If someone can write in minnan (hokkian) the name of the descendants which are stated on the gravestones I would be very grateful.
You can see the photo at : http://www.haryono.net/misc/Zheng.jpg
The first 4 are the sons (first one, we knew the name is Phia-teng and the last is Hoan-ciong)
The second list are 16 grandchildren. My great-grandfather's father should be stated here (his name is Ciao-Cai - our dutch spelling written as Tjiauw Tjay)
The third row are 9 great-grandsons. My great-grandfather should be stated here. His name is Han-tong
Thank you in advance,
Steve
Bingding 丙丁 piann1-ting1, Pia-tengThe first 4 are the sons (first one, we knew the name is Phia-teng and the last is Hoan-ciong)
Tianhua 天花 thian-hua, Thian-hoa
Duijin 堆金 tui1-kim1, Tui-kim
Huanzhang 煥章 huan3-tsiong1, Hoan-ciong
Xiuzhu 修竹 siu1-tiok4, Siu-tiokThe second list are 16 grandchildren. My great-grandfather's father should be stated here (his name is Ciao-Cai - our dutch spelling written as Tjiauw Tjay)
Shenyan 慎言 sin7-gian5, Sin-gian
Yong'an 永安 ing2-an1, Eng-an
Zhaocai 招財 tsiau1-tsai5, Ciao-cai
Zhaofu 招福 tsiau1-hok4, Ciao-hok
Zhaoyong 招雍 tsiau1-iong, Ciao-yong
Bingliang 秉良 ping2-liong5, Peng-liong
Bingsui 秉遂 ping2-sui7, Peng-sui
Bingxiang 秉祥 ping2-siong5, Peng-siong
Rongqiao 榮喬 ing5-kiau5, Eng-kiau
Rongqian 榮遷 ing5-tshian1, Eng-chian
Rongmu 榮木 ing5-bok8, Eng-bok
Weizhong 維中 ui5-tiong1, Wi-tiong
Rongcai 榮彩 ing5-tshai2, Eng-chai
Weihe 維和 ui5-ho5, Wi-ho
Weisong 維松 ui5-siong5, Wi-siong
Qiezhe 且哲 tshiann2-tiat4, Chia-tiatThe third row are 9 great-grandsons. My great-grandfather should be stated here. His name is Han-tong
Xiaojian 孝儉, hau3-khiam7, Hao-khiam
Youxing 有興 iu2-hing1, Yiu-heng
Handong 漢東 han3-tong1, Han-tong
Youyi 友義 iu2-gi7, Yiu-gi
Youxin 友信 iu2-sin3, Yiu-sin
Chengxi 承禧 sing5-hi1, Seng-hi
Chenghu 承祜 sing5-hoo7, Seng-ho
Jinglong 景隆 king2-liong5, Keng-liong
Hi,
Here am I again, asking for help.
I have a few photo's of gravestones which I collected last year during my visit to my hometown.
http://www.haryono.net/misc/Yeo-1.jpg <- This is from my paternal greatgrandfather. His name is Yeo Tjeng Kang (it is dutch spelling. In Singapore it should be Yeo Cheng Kang may be)
http://www.haryono.net/misc/Yeo-2.jpg <-- the upper part of his descendant
http://www.haryono.net/misc/Yeo-3.jpg <-- the lower part of his descendant.
I need to have all the names of descendants written on this gravestone since some uncle and great-uncle has died before I was born and my family still argued what their official names are. Funny, but some people (at least 2 of them) had 2 names and now no body knows what are their official names.
Beside those 3 gravestone, I was visiting a family graveyard from my greatgrandmother family. There are 5 gravestones wtih chinese characters and some others with latins, so those are cleared for me. But for the 5 gravestone, I need some explanation:
http://www.haryono.net/misc/Oey-2.jpg <- this should be from Oey Thiam Seng (may be with singapore spelling should be Ooi Thiam seng ?) He was appointed Luitenant for the chinese in his village.
http://www.haryono.net/misc/Oey-1.jpg <- this should be his son, we called Oey Jat Bie also appointed Luitenant
http://www.haryono.net/misc/Oey-3.jpg <- this one, I am not sure who is burried here.
http://www.haryono.net/misc/Oey-4.jpg <- stated as Oey Tjoen Hwie, but still can not find his name in our familytree. May be if we know the names of his descendants we will know who he is.
http://www.haryono.net/misc/Oey-5.jpg <- If I was correctly told, this should be my greatgrandmother, named Oey Kim Lie, daughter of Oey Jat Bie.
Every stories I heard, are from the local people who lived nearby the graveyard. Even my direct uncle (younger brother of my father) doesn't know who's who in those family graveyard
If someone can give me a full translations of the gravestone (the most important is the names and the descendant's names and the year when they died, I will be very grateful.
Thank you in advance,
Steve Haryono
Yeo Tjong Hian
Here am I again, asking for help.
I have a few photo's of gravestones which I collected last year during my visit to my hometown.
http://www.haryono.net/misc/Yeo-1.jpg <- This is from my paternal greatgrandfather. His name is Yeo Tjeng Kang (it is dutch spelling. In Singapore it should be Yeo Cheng Kang may be)
http://www.haryono.net/misc/Yeo-2.jpg <-- the upper part of his descendant
http://www.haryono.net/misc/Yeo-3.jpg <-- the lower part of his descendant.
I need to have all the names of descendants written on this gravestone since some uncle and great-uncle has died before I was born and my family still argued what their official names are. Funny, but some people (at least 2 of them) had 2 names and now no body knows what are their official names.
Beside those 3 gravestone, I was visiting a family graveyard from my greatgrandmother family. There are 5 gravestones wtih chinese characters and some others with latins, so those are cleared for me. But for the 5 gravestone, I need some explanation:
http://www.haryono.net/misc/Oey-2.jpg <- this should be from Oey Thiam Seng (may be with singapore spelling should be Ooi Thiam seng ?) He was appointed Luitenant for the chinese in his village.
http://www.haryono.net/misc/Oey-1.jpg <- this should be his son, we called Oey Jat Bie also appointed Luitenant
http://www.haryono.net/misc/Oey-3.jpg <- this one, I am not sure who is burried here.
http://www.haryono.net/misc/Oey-4.jpg <- stated as Oey Tjoen Hwie, but still can not find his name in our familytree. May be if we know the names of his descendants we will know who he is.
http://www.haryono.net/misc/Oey-5.jpg <- If I was correctly told, this should be my greatgrandmother, named Oey Kim Lie, daughter of Oey Jat Bie.
Every stories I heard, are from the local people who lived nearby the graveyard. Even my direct uncle (younger brother of my father) doesn't know who's who in those family graveyard
If someone can give me a full translations of the gravestone (the most important is the names and the descendant's names and the year when they died, I will be very grateful.
Thank you in advance,
Steve Haryono
Yeo Tjong Hian