How to pronounce 聯昌 and 聯精 in Hokkien

elmer · Post by **elmer** » Tue Mar 11, 2008 7:04 pm

Hello,

How would 聯昌 and 聯精 be pronounced in Hokkien?

Would it be something like Bian Tjiong and Bian Tjing?

regards,
Elmer

duaaagiii · Post by **duaaagiii** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 1:27 pm

(using TL romanization)

聯 lian5

昌 is tshiong1, like "chong" pronounced in English
精 is tsing1, like "jing" pronounced in English

What kind of sound is "Tj-"?

casey · Post by **casey** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 10:12 am

Elmer

Lian5 is also pronounced as Bian5 in Minnan dialect, so Bian Tjiong (tj with aspiration) is correct but Bian Tjing should have been Bian Djing in my opinion. Tj should be changed to Dj because it is pronounced without aspiration.

Duaaagiii

Tj is an old Indonesian spelling (following the Dutch language) equivalent to Ch (with aspiration) in Minnan dialect or Q, Ch and C in Mandarin.

Casey

niuc · Post by **niuc** » Sat Jul 12, 2008 10:47 am

Actually Tj in old Indonesian spelling system ("ejaan lama") is without aspiration. Dj in that system is J in English. But again, there are no aspirated sounds such as Ch (Q in pinyin) or Kh (K in pinyin) or Th (T in pinyin) in native Indonesian words. It's quite common that spelling of aspirated and non aspirated sounds for Chinese names is a mess in Indonesia.

hays · Post by **hays** » Sun Jul 13, 2008 2:14 pm

Hi niuc, long time no see.

They can write it as Tjhing or Djing (dutch spelling).

Rgds,
Steve