Who can help me with the transcription of this tombstone?

elmer · Post by **elmer** » Mon Apr 28, 2008 7:32 pm

Hello, I invite you to have a look at:
http://home.planet.nl/~lie00120/temp.htm
I would be most grateful if you can help me to complete the transcription

Header: 蓬山 (Peng San, place of origin of the family)

First column: 旹光绪???年????

Second column: ?考諱長祿李?君?佳城

Third column: ?妣諱烈娘韓?人?壽域

Fourth column: 男鍾?園慶寧鍾智善賢女???娘? (unknown name of the son should be Tik, daughters should be named Siep, Hie and Yan

kind regards,
Elmer

duaaagiii · Post by **duaaagiii** » Tue Apr 29, 2008 2:27 pm

蓬山 Peng shan

旹（時）光緒叁拾叁（參拾參、三十三）年歲次吉置
33rd year of the reign of Guangxu (1907)
顯考諱長祿李府君之佳城
(Father) Li Tiong-lok
顯妣諱烈娘韓孺人之壽域
(Mother) Han Liat-nioo

男
鍾寧鍾慶鍾圓鍾澤
Tsiong-ling Tsiong-khing Tsiong-uan Tsiong-tik
鍾賢鍾善鍾智
Tsiong-hian Tsiong-sian Tsiong-ti

女
嫣娘禧娘習娘
Ian-nioo Hi-nioo Sip-nioo

孫
(stops here)

elmer · Post by **elmer** » Tue Apr 29, 2008 4:09 pm

thank you duaaagiii, als always I am much obliged

ong · Post by **ong** » Wed Apr 30, 2008 9:02 am

If 蓬山 is correct you should be 泉州安溪 origin instead of 龙溪榜山

elmer · Post by **elmer** » Wed Apr 30, 2008 9:04 am

Hello Ong, what do you mean?

elmer · Post by **elmer** » Wed Apr 30, 2008 9:14 am

I have foung three tombstones of the early generations of the family Lie. The stones of the father and one of the sons (died resp. 1890 and 1907)mention the name Peng Shan (蓬山). The tombstone of a second son (died 1916) mentions Long Xi (龍溪).

That is why I always thought that Peng Shan is a part of the city Long Xi (Zhangzhou) or maybe very close to it.

Why do you now think of more northern origin (Quanzhou, Anxi)

regards,
Elmer

ong · Post by **ong** » Wed Apr 30, 2008 9:24 am

There are 龙溪 in 安溪蓬莱
www.qzhnet.dnscn.cn/qzh140.htm
click 蓬莱镇 above
Just type 安溪蓬山 you will get a lot but you can't get 漳州蓬山。

ong · Post by **ong** » Thu May 01, 2008 5:36 am

what is your opinion after knowing that there are 龙溪 as well in 安溪蓬莱?
Your can see in some articles that 蓬山=蓬莱

ong · Post by **ong** » Sat May 03, 2008 5:12 am

You need to see if there is mentioned 福斗、五狮 ,etc in that 龙溪 stone to confirm it。People like 林梧桐(Genting malaysia) is 蓬莱联盟案山。 This web page mentions there are 蓬莱龙溪 people in Indonesia http://baike.baidu.com/view/459869.htm
蓬莱 is 镇，龙溪 is 村 inside it , 福斗 is area .
You can see books written during Tang period 蓬山=蓬莱。But here could be more about there is 蓬山(mountain) in 蓬莱镇。
Some stone mentioned only 村，some only 镇.I can see this in malaysia almost daily.

ong · Post by **ong** » Sat May 03, 2008 5:27 am

If your surname is 李，you could be originally from 蓬莱竹林,鸿福 or two others mentioned in above website.I find that by using that website I haven' t found surname which didn't match.