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elmer
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Chinese genealogy

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Hello, once again I invite you to have a look at:

http://home.planet.nl/~lie00120/temp.htm

This is part of the Oei-genealogy from Jombang. I would like to transfer it to a computer-file, but can not translate all the characters even though they are translated. Could you please help me out?

regards,
Elmer

Oei Hong Gwan Sie Hee To (黃?源世??)
Hok Kian Sing Tjiang Tjoe Hoe (福建????)
Liong Gwee Kwie Tjio Bie Hioe (龍???美?)

Tjong Thay (宗泰)
:arrow: Tjo Tun (祖敦)
:arrow: :arrow: Bie Yet (??)
:arrow: :arrow: Bie Hay (??)
:arrow: :arrow: :arrow: Thian Sang (天?)
:arrow: :arrow: :arrow: :arrow: Soen Ie (??)
:arrow: :arrow: Hoo Mie (和美)
:arrow: :arrow: :arrow: Thian Ong (天旺)
:arrow: :arrow: :arrow: :arrow: Tjin Tin (振珍)
:arrow: :arrow: :arrow: :arrow: Tjin Bho (振謨)
:arrow: :arrow: :arrow: :arrow: Tjin Sing (振?)
:arrow: :arrow: :arrow: :arrow: Tjin Soen (振?)
:arrow: :arrow: :arrow: Thian Tjay (天財)
:arrow: :arrow: :arrow: :arrow: Tjhing Ie (??)
:arrow: :arrow: :arrow: Thian Tie (天?)
:arrow: :arrow: :arrow: :arrow: Tjhing Kwie (?貴)
:arrow: :arrow: :arrow: :arrow: Tjhing Hien (?興)
:arrow: :arrow: :arrow: :arrow: Kim Swan (金萱)
:arrow: :arrow: :arrow: :arrow: Kim Tan (金丹)
:arrow: :arrow: :arrow: :arrow: Kim Tjiam (金?)
:arrow: :arrow: :arrow: :arrow: Kim Eng (金英)
:arrow: :arrow: :arrow: Thian Ting (天?)
:arrow: :arrow: :arrow: Thian Sang (天送)
:arrow: Tjo Tjie (祖?)
:arrow: :arrow: Bie Tjhong (?唱)
:arrow: Tjo Hauw (祖?, is the name of his wife mentioned?)
:arrow: :arrow: Swan (宣)
:arrow: :arrow: Ghoen (?) x Tee Ghik Soen (???)
:arrow: :arrow: Siem (心) x Lie Tjhong Too (李滄濤)
:arrow: Tjo Tan (祖旦)
:arrow: :arrow: Bay Swie (?水)
:arrow: :arrow: :arrow: Oen Kwie (?貴)
:arrow: :arrow: :arrow: Oen Heng (?興)
:arrow: Tjo Poo (祖?)
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duaaagiii
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黃篁源世系圖
福建省漳州府
龍溪縣石美鄉

宗泰 Tsong-thai
→祖敦 Tso-tun
→→丕悅 Phi-iat
→→丕海 Phi-hai
→→→天送 Thian-sang/song
→→→→紃意 Sun-i (not sure about the first character)
→→和美 Ho-bi
→→→天旺 Thian-ong
→→→→振珍 Tsin-tin
→→→→振謨 Tsin-boo
→→→→振順 Tsin-sun
→→→天財 Thian-tsai
→→→→清意 Tshing-i
→→→天池 Thian-ti
→→→→清貴 Tshing-kui
→→→→清興 Tshing-hing
→→→→金萱 Kim-suan
→→→→金丹 Kim-tan
→→→→金拈 Kim-tsiam (should be liam)
→→→→金英 Kim-ing
→→→天登 Thian-ting
→→→天送 Thian-sang/song
→祖齊 Tso-tse
→→丕唱 Phi-tshiong
→祖後 Tso-hau
→→宣 Suan
→→勤 Khun/Khin, 戴碧順 Te Phik-sun
→→心 Sim, 李滄濤 Li Tshong-to
→祖旦 Tso-tan
→→派水 Phai-sui
→→→允貴 Un-kui
→→→允興 Un-hing
→ 祖寶 Tso-po
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Post by elmer »

Hello Eric,

Thank you once again.

One question, do you know what is written in the "leave" of 祖後 (Tso-hau)?

kind regards
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Post by duaaagiii »

You're welcome.

乳名百芽

"百芽 (lit. "hundred sprouts") was his nickname as a baby"
I'm not sure how they pronounced that; perhaps as pah4-ge5?
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Hello, on:

http://home.planet.nl/~lie00120/temp.htm

I have placed the second part of the genealogy. Could you help me finish it?

kind regards, Elmer

宗泰 Tsong-thai
→祖敦 Tso-tun
→→丕悅 Phi-iat
→→丕海 Phi-hai
→→→天送 Thian-sang/song
→→→→紃意 Sun-i (not sure about the first character)
→→和美 Ho-bi
→→→天旺 Thian-ong
→→→→振珍 Tsin-tin
→→→→振謨 Tsin-boo
→→→→振順 Tsin-sun
→→→→振? Tjin Sing
→→→→振? Tjin Tik
→→→→振? Tjin Soen
→→→→振? Tjin An
→→→→?? Gwan Tjwan
→→→→金? Kim Hwa x ??? Ko Khing Ban
→→→→金? Kim Twan x ??? Tan Hian Tjong
→→→天財 Thian-tsai
→→→→清意 Tshing-i
→→→天池 Thian-ti
→→→→清貴 Tshing-kui
→→→→清興 Tshing-hing
→→→→金萱 Kim-suan
→→→→金丹 Kim-tan
→→→→金拈 Kim-tsiam (should be liam)
→→→→金英 Kim-ing
→→→天登 Thian-ting
→→→天送 Thian-sang/song
→祖齊 Tso-tse
→→丕唱 Phi-tshiong
→祖後 Tso-hau
→→宣 Suan
→→勤 Khun/Khin, 戴碧順 Te Phik-sun
→→心 Sim, 李滄濤 Li Tshong-to
→→?? Kiam x Go Hie Siang
→→?水 Gam Tjwie
→→→? Oen x 林?? Liem Bian Sioe
→→→?? Tiong Gwie
→→→→明? Bing Kok
→→→→明? Bing Tie
→→→→玉意 Giok Ie x ??? Kwa Tjhiang Tjo
→→→→? An x 林?玉 Liem Kwie Giok
→→→?? Tiong Hwat
→→→→明? Bing Hak
→→→→→德興 Tik Hien
→→→→→德? Tik Poen
→→→→→? Him
→→→→→?明 Siek Bing
→→→→→? Siek Kwee
→→→→→德? Tik Sing
→→→→→? Kiok x ??? Tjan Kok Sian
→→→→→德? Tik Hwie
→→→→? Bwan x ??? Han Ting Bie
→→→→明文 Bing Boen
→→→→→德? Tik Loen
→→→→→德? Tik Thay
→→→→→?? Gwat Hwa
→→→→→?? Gwat Yong x 吳?? Go Thiam Ling
→→→→?? Ik x ??? Tie Hien Liong
→→→→明? Bing Tian
→→→→→? Siong x 陳?? Tan Boen Lam
→→→→→德? Tik How
→→→→→→?? Sin Bie
→→→→→→?? Sin Tjing
→→→→?? Hing x ??? Lie Tjiong Wan
→→→→明? Bing Tjiong
→→→→→?? Tik Tjhiang
→→→? Kiauw x ??? Yoe Sing Bie
→→→? Liem x ??泰 Tan Khing Thay
→→班水 Pan Tjwie
→→→?? Kiong
→→→?? King Lam
→→→?? King Hwat
→→→→?? Tie Hwie
→→→?? Wan
→→→?? King Tjioe
→→→?? King Tjwan
→→→→明? Bing Twan
→→→?? King Liem
→→→? Liep x 韓?? Han Poo Lim
→→→?? King Yong
→→→→明? Bing Siong
→→→→明? Bing Tjhiang
→→→→? Ik
→→→→明? Bing Tik
→祖旦 Tso-tan
→→派水 Phai-sui
→→→允貴 Un-kui
→→→允興 Un-hing
→ 祖寶 Tso-po
→→ 派水 Phai-sui
→→ 丕? Bie King
→→ ?水 Tjiauw Tjwie
→→→?? Kang Tjwan
→→→金玉 Kim Giok
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宗泰 Tsong-thai
→祖敦 Tsoo-tun
→→丕悅 Phi-iat
→→丕海 Phi-hai
→→→天送 Thian-sang/song
→→→→紃意 Sun-i (not sure about the first character)
→→和美 Ho-bi
→→→天旺 Thian-ong
→→→→振珍 Tsin-tin
→→→→振謨 Tsin-boo
→→→→振順 Tsin-sun
→→→→振盛 Tsin-sing
→→→→振德 Tsin-tik
→→→→振安 Tsin-an
→→→→元泉 Guan-tsuan
→→→→金花 Kim-hua, 高慶慢 Ko Khing-ban
→→→→金緞 Kim-tuan, 陳顯宗 Tan Hian-tsong
→→→天財 Thian-tsai
→→→→清意 Tshing-i
→→→天池 Thian-ti
→→→→清貴 Tshing-kui
→→→→清興 Tshing-hing
→→→→金萱 Kim-suan
→→→→金丹 Kim-tan
→→→→金拈 Kim-tsiam (should be liam)
→→→→金英 Kim-ing
→→→天登 Thian-ting
→→→天送 Thian-sang/song
→祖齊 Tspo-tse
→→丕唱 Phi-tshiong
→祖後 Tsoo-hau
→→宣 Suan
→→勤 Khun/Khin, 戴碧順 Te Phik-sun
→→心 Sim, 李滄濤 Li Tshong-to
→→儉 Khiam, 吳禧祥 Goo Hi-siang
→→岩水 Gam-tsui
→→→恩 Un, 林綿秀 Lim Bian-Siu
→→→長溪 Tiong-khue
→→→→明睿 Bing-jue
→→→→明智 Bing-ti
→→→→玉意 Giok-i, 柯昌祖 Kua Tshiang-tso
→→→→安 An, 林貴玉 Lim Kui-giok
→→→長發 Tiong-huat
→→→→明學 Bing-hak
→→→→→德興 Tik-hing
→→→→→德本 Tik-pun
→→→→→衿 Kim
→→→→→錫朋 Sik-ping
→→→→→錫珪 Sik-kui
→→→→→德盛 Tik-sing
→→→→→菊 Kiok, 曾國善 Tsan Kok-sian
→→→→→德輝 Tik-hui
→→→→滿 Buan, 韓登美 Han Ting-bi
→→→→明文 Bing-bun
→→→→→德潤 Tik-jun/lun
→→→→→德泰 Tik-thai
→→→→→月華 Guat-hua
→→→→→月容 Guat-iong, 吳添寧 Goo Thiam-ling
→→→→益 Ik, 戴興讓 Te/Ti Hing-liong
→→→→明典 Bing-tian
→→→→→祥 Siong, 陳文南 Tan Bun-lam
→→→→→德厚 Tik-hoo
→→→→→→新美 Sin-bi
→→→→→→新增 Sin-tsing
→→→→幸 Hing, 李鍾圓 Li Tsiong-uan
→→→→明章 Bing-tsiong
→→→→→德昌 Tik-tshiang
→→→嬌 Kiau, 尤成美 Iu Sing-bi
→→→憐 Lin, 陳慶泰 Tan Khing-thai
→→班水 Pan-tsui
→→→恭 Kiong
→→→景南 King-lam
→→→景發 King-huat
→→→→知非 Ti-hui
→→→圓 Uan
→→→景周 King-tsiu
→→→景全 King-tsuan
→→→→明端 Bing-tuan
→→→景倫 King-lun
→→→入 Lip/Jip, 韓寶林 Han Po-lim
→→→景陽 King-iong
→→→→明祥 Bing-siong
→→→→明昌 Bing-tshiang
→→→→逸 Ik (should be It)
→→→→明德 Bing-tik
→祖旦 Tsoo-tan
→→派水 Phai-sui
→→→允貴 Un-kui
→→→允興 Un-hing
→祖寶 Tsoo-po
→→派水 Phai-sui
→→丕敬 Phi-king
→→灶水 Tsau-tsui
→→→港泉 Kang-tsuan
→→→金玉 Kim-giok
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Post by elmer »

eric,

do you know what text is added to the name of Bay Tjwie (left-bottom)

kind regards,
Elmer
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duaaagiii
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Post by duaaagiii »

出嗣
He was given to another family.
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elmer
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Post by elmer »

hai, that makes perfect sense: a few places higher you see the exact same name and his offspring.

on http://home.planet.nl/~lie00120/temp.htm I placed a picture of tha grave of 岩水 (Gam-tsui), although another name is written on the stone.

I was able to decipher most of the stone. Can you help me with the remaining characters?

石美(?)
旹光緒辛卯孟夏之月榖旦
顯考處士諱??黃君墳(?)茔(?)
顯妣孺人?温溆(?)鄭氏佳城
男長溪發孫明典文明章學明智睿仝立石

Shi2 Guang1 Xu4 Xin1 Mao3 Meng4 Xia4 Zhi1 Yue4 Gu3 Dan4
On a happy day during the 1st month of the summer of the year Yin Metal-Rabbit in the age of Guangxu (btw. 8 May & 6 June 1891)


thanks again, Elmer
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石美

時光緒辛卯孟夏之月穀旦

顯考處士諱懷遠黃君墳塋
顯妣孺人諡溫淑鄭氏佳城

男
長發 長溪

孫
明文 明典 明章 明學 明睿 明智

女
寅憐 寅嬌

仝力石
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