Hokkien Pronounciation.

[Shida]

Dear Members

I am researching these three Chinese characters:

力 手 元

Pronounced li shou yuan in Manderin, or 'power hand ancient' in English.

I would be very grateful if anyone could provide me with a Hokkien translation?

Thank you.

[aokh1979]

Hi Shida:

Sorry, the other day the format was kelam-kabut, did not see your message.

力 = lik
手 = siu
元 = guan


Regards,
aokh1979

[Shida]

Hi Shida:

Sorry, the other day the format was kelam-kabut, did not see your message.

力 = lik
手 = siu
元 = guan


Regards,
aokh1979

Dear aokh1979

Thank you very much for your reply. It is very much appreciated.

Best Wishes

Adrian

PS: What is the prevailing language for Fuzhou?

[xng]

Hi Shida:

Sorry, the other day the format was kelam-kabut, did not see your message.

力 = lik
手 = siu
元 = guan


Regards,
aokh1979

Should be

lak, C'iu, guan

As standalone, they use their colloquail sound.

[Shida]

Hi Shida:

Sorry, the other day the format was kelam-kabut, did not see your message.

力 = lik
手 = siu
元 = guan


Regards,
aokh1979

Should be

lak, C'iu, guan

As standalone, they use their colloquail sound.

Thank you xng - your knowledge is very much appreciated.

Best Wishes

Shida

[Shida]

I am told that dialects of Hokkien can vary dramatically, even within a ten mile area of Fujian. I have discovered that the 3 characters where used in the Fuzhou area, and therefore promounced in Min Dong. There have been two very good translations provided on this thread:

力 = lik
手 = siu
元 = guan

力 = lak
手 = ciu
元 = guan

My question is this; which one of these pronounciations is closest to Min Dong? And how much does Hokkien of Min Nana vary in Fujian?

Thank you for your valauable help.

Best Wishes

shida

[xng]

I am told that dialects of Hokkien can vary dramatically, even within a ten mile area of Fujian.

shida

I think there is some miscommunication.

Hokkien language usually mean Minnan and not MinDong.

There are 7 main languages in Hokkien province as diverse as spanish, english, italian etc.

You are asking something like what is the european word for 'hand' which is non existent.

This is a minnan forum.

[Shida]

I am told that dialects of Hokkien can vary dramatically, even within a ten mile area of Fujian. I have discovered that the 3 characters where used in the Fuzhou area, and therefore promounced in Min Dong. There have been two very good translations provided on this thread:

力 = lik
手 = siu
元 = guan

力 = lak
手 = ciu
元 = guan

My question is this; which one of these pronounciations is closest to Min Dong? And how much does Hokkien of Min Nan very in Fujian?

Thank you for your valauable help.

Best Wishes

shida

[Shida]

I am told that dialects of Hokkien can vary dramatically, even within a ten mile area of Fujian.

shida

I think there is some miscommunication.

Hokkien language usually mean Minnan and not MinDong.

There are 7 main languages in Hokkien province as diverse as spanish, english, italian etc.

You are asking something like what is the european word for 'hand' which is non existent.

This is a minnan forum.

Thank you xng.

I am referencing this link:

Fujian
http://www.chinatour.com/attraction/fujian.province.htm

And focusing upon this extract:

'Because of its mountainous nature and the numerous waves of migration from central China in the course of history, Fujian is one of the most linguistically diverse places in all Han Chinese areas of China. Local dialects can become unintelligible within 10 km. This is reflected in the expression that "if you drive five miles in Fujian the culture changes, and if you drive ten miles, the language does". Classification of these various dialects has confounded linguists. In general, most dialects of Fujian are put into a broad Min category, then subdivided into Min Bei, Min Dong, Min Zhong, Min Nan, Pu Xian, and Shao Jiang. (The seventh subdivision of Min, Qiong Wen, is not spoken in Fujian.) The Fuzhou dialect is part of Min Dong, but some linguists classify it as Min Bei; the Amoy language is part of Min Nan. Hakka, another subdivision of spoken Chinese, is spoken around Longyan by the Hakka people who live there.'

Thank you for pointing out this information.

Best Wishes

shida
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[amhoanna]

If you're talking about literary pronunciations, there's not going to be much of a differencc between this forum's "Hokkien" and the languages spoken in Hokciu 福州 or 福清 "Hockchia" or 莆田 Henghwa. In fact, there's not even going to be much of a difference vs Korean, tones aside. If you're talking about colloquial pronunciations, there's still a lot of similarities between the languages I just mentioned. The vocabulary and tone rules are really different though. If you read Chinese, you might want to take a spin on the ISPEAKMIN forum.