Chinese languages

Hi everyone. I just wrote to ask you how many Chu no Characters are there? I heard that unicode has already incorporated 9000 of them.







Thanks a lot.






Regards,



Richard

Richard wrote:
>
> Hi everyone. I just wrote to ask you how many Chu no
> Characters are there? I heard that unicode has already
> incorporated 9000 of them.

According to Ken Lunde's _CJKV Information Processing_ (Sebastopol, CA:
O'Reilly & Associates, Inc., 1999) on ppp.118-119, Vietnam's TCVN 5773:
1993 character set contains 2,357 characters, of which about 600 of them
are not considered to be chu nom--that means about 1,750 chu nom.
(Vietnam also has a TCVN 6056: 1995, which contains 3,311 characters, but
they are all not considered to be chu nom.)

If I understand correctly, the chu nom in the "M111" and "M112"
fonts in the Mojikyou font set, and occupy indices 60224 to 63824.
Assuming that all the spaces in this range are filled, and that there aren't
chu nom scattered elsewhere, that's about 3,600.

In both cases I believe what is considered a chu nom character are not
those characters that also have a function in writing Chinese, e.g., 沒 is
used to write Vietnamese mo^.t '(numeral) one', but has pre-existing
Chinese usage and origin.

I suppose part of the answer to how many chu nom there are is how many
Vietnamese words that are not of Chinese origin there are (at least, not ones that people remember as being of Chinese origin). That should be
about how many new characters would have to be invented, because the
Vietnamese as far as I know did not adopt the Japanese method of writing
native words with familiar Chinese characters.


Thomas Chan
tc31@cornell.edu

Thomas Chan wrote:
>
> If I understand correctly, the chu nom in the "M111" and "M112"
> fonts in the Mojikyou font set, and occupy indices 60224 to
> 63824.
> Assuming that all the spaces in this range are filled, and
> that there aren't
> chu nom scattered elsewhere, that's about 3,600.

Looking at this more closely, I find there are in fact index numbers skipped,
and that the actual number is 1,149.


Thomas Chan
tc31@cornell.edu

My version of the mojikyo character map index has 1,121. Not much difference from your count.

My print dictionary has both chu nom and chu han (hanzi), and I have calculated that dispersed among the total, that there is approximately 3000 chu nom characters in this dictionary. Mine is the 70s version, and I'm not sure about the 90s version if there are additional characters or not. It seems that Unicode would have the most complete edition, so I wonder what source they used, of if they are directly from the TCVN standards?

James